first-term record, and they are deploying him now in swing states, even more than michelle obama, he's probably the biggest asset they have. but life is long. you never know when you're going to end up, that these two men are now embracing to this extent. >> life is really long. >> you know, the president got a bounce at the convention, and it's arguable that clinton played a big part in that. we have this new pew research center poll that i found real estate interesting. it showed, when they were asking, what was the highlight of the democratic convention, 29% bill clinton's speech, 16% said the president's speech, and michelle obama's speech was at 15%. so does that also mean that there is a downside to having president clinton -- >> oh, you mean overshadowing -- you know, he -- everybody knows hays not the candidate. i think he's a great character witness for the candidate. i think there was a dangerous dangeat the convention of that kind of a result, because you want your candidate to shine, not the person who is testifying on your behalf to shine. but i think right now, it's every